Tuesday, February 5, 2013

ATDPI up to "Reindeer Games" (p. 135)

Post one question, prediction, or connection, and respond to at least one other person's post.

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  2. I'm kinda thinking that Rowdy and Arnold are going to get back together again, especially considering the relationship they have currently.

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    1. Yeah, either that, or they will still continue to hate each other, or something bad will happen to Rowdy.

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    2. why would anything bad happen to Rowdy?

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    3. Everything bad always happens to the best friend in a story

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    4. Could it be that Arnold has moved on?

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  3. I predict that Earl might eventually warm up to Junior. He seems like a character who just has been ignorant of knowledge, and will come around from his racism presented on page 109.

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    1. I agree, I think that Roger's friendship with Jr. will help Earl accept Jr.

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    2. I thought that too, in the sense that Earl was living in a small town, and basically thought what his parents thought (could explain the racism) and that throughout the rest of the book, he will take a liking to Junior.

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    3. I think that Earl might possibly like Junior because he will see that junior is just a nice guy who cares for Penelope on a deep level.

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    4. I agree, maybe even more in Juniors mind now that he is on the Basketball team.

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  4. I agree I believe that Earl will have to warm up because of Penelope and Arnold s relation.

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  5. I wonder if Arnold's sister will get some money from her book she plans on writing titled... "How to Run away from your house and find your home".

    Chapter 19

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    1. she probably will get money from her husband to publish it but i think if it does it wont be successful

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  6. I predict that Rowdy misses Jr. but doesn't want to admit it because he is trying to maintain his "touch guy" image.
    What problems does Penelope face in her life? Are they as bad as Jr's or possibly worse?
    I predict that Penelope is starting to develop actual feelings for Jr. and isn't just dating him to make her father mad. I think Jr. and Roger will become better friends and that will help Penelope's father to accept Jr.

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    1. I think your question about how Penelope problems are just as bad as Juniors if not worse is very interesting. On the outside you would think Junior has it worse because he has no money, is of a different race than everyone and is the new kid at school. But I agree with you that her problems are worse than juniors because she is suffering on the inside. She obviously doesn't like who she is which is why she is bulimic which in my opinion is way worse than things like being new at a school.

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  7. I agree I think that Rowdy truly misses Junior even if he doesn't want to admit it.
    I predict that eventually Penelope and Junior will separate or have some kind of conflict.

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    1. I also predict that Penelope and Junior will separate.

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  8. After reading this section of the book, I am really beginning to think that Junior is going to get into some kind of conflict with his two current lives. There is the "top-of-the-class" kid that he is at his current school, and then there is the helpless Indian kid that he is at the rez. I predict that Rowdy will get really pissed off that Junior basically left his old life behind him, and is sort-of starting fresh and breaking the usual tradition of being a dropout/loser on the rez.

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  9. I understand why Arnold doesn't want to tell people that he is poor because he feels that he won't fit in with the others because they are all rich or middle class. Pg. 129

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    1. i agree with you.i think if people know that hes pore that they will treat him even worse!

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    2. I agree, but I think that his new friends (Roger&Penelope) will accept him for who he is, if he is rich or poor.

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    3. I agree because not only does he think that he will not fit it he is worried about what others will think.

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    4. Nobody wants to be the poor kid, just look at what happens to Kenny from Southpark.

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  10. I believe that Penelope dad will later on accept the fact that their dating and respect junior more.
    I think that there will be some sort of problem introduced in the book soon
    Also i think Penelope felt bad for junior at first and was desperate for someone but now i think she has actual feelings for him.

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  11. i predict that his sister will turn famous from her book

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  12. How did Arnold and Penelope become such good friends to the point where they are dating so fast?

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    1. I think he gives her inspiring advice after she blew chunks in the bathroom, she starts crying and he gets all deep.

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  13. I predict that Jr. and Penelope might actually fall in love with each other later in the book.
    "I was half indian in one place and half white in the other."pg118 I felt like this quote also relates a lot to the book title.

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  14. Rowdy doesn't seem to talk to Junior much differently than he did before; it makes me wonder how much he actually hates junior.

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    1. Junior clearly means a lot to Rowdy, as he's the only person Rowdy doesn't beat up, and Junior left him behind. It's perhaps that Rowdy feels like the only person he values has betrayed him and he hates what Junior's done, not Junior as a person.

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  15. I wonder how Penelope and Juniors relationship will turn out and how both families will react.

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  16. My question is what does Rowdy do all day? Every time Junior sneaks of from class and goes to the computer lab to email Rowdy (page 115) Rowdy responds within like a second. How does he have time to do this if is is supposedly at school on the reservation were they have no computers?

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    1. That is a great question I think he is releasing his anger to other people that looks like Jr.

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    2. Great Question Sam, maybe he is skipping school and has internet at home. Probably just a plot hole though.

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    3. Rowdy was never good at school and I think the only reason why he still went was because of Jr, now that he is gone he might just stay at home all day

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  17. What will happen to Rowdy when he realized that when Jr. gave him so much opportunities to be friends and Jr. ends up in a different life?

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    1. I think this is a very good question and I think that if this were to happen rowdy would tell Jr. and Jr. would end up being friends with rowdy again

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  18. Thanksgiving- They have a normal thanksgiving just the fact that Rowdy doesn't come over to have a pie contest. How does Rowdy's Dad know to lie to Junior and tell him Rowdy isn't there? Did Rowdy know that Junior was coming over? (pg.103)
    Hunger pains- Even though a girl yells "Go Away" Junior still stays to see if the girl is okay and I thought that was sweet of him to do. (pg.106)
    Rowdy Gives me advice about love- Gordy references to a article showing where people were racist. Gordy actually shows interest in how people are racist. I feel like Junior will break up with Penelope to get his bestfriend back. (pg.116)
    Dance X3- The comic Junior made to show how not to act poor. Was interesting and how he thinks people will judge him is interesting as well. Roger was understanding when Penelope told him about Junior. It was surprising. (pg.128)
    My sister sends me an email- His sister seems happy in emails but I think she is hiding the fact that she is not happy so her family wouldn't think she is stupid to run off with some guy and get married. (pg.133)
    Don't trust your computer- Gordy and Junior talk and he actually understands and If I were Junior that would make me feel a little better about the situation. (pg.130)

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  19. What is it about small towns that make people like Penelope feel the way they do on p. 111 of "Hunger Pains"?
    In the context of "Rowdy Gives Me Some Advice About Love" which is racist: a person who falls in love with a pretty, privileged white girl or the people who are against the union?
    When Junior is talking to the people on the rez, is he speaking in English or a native tongue? I'm fairly certain it's English but I'm still curious.

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    1. Interesting questions! I'm particularly intrigued by the second one.

      My guess is that they're speaking English - as the article about Lakota educators said, not many American Indian languages are still spoken.

      Could be the source for a really interesting comic, looking at what happened to American Indian languages!

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  20. Rowdy seemed to really show his hate for Junior at the Basketball game by knocking him out and sending him to the ER. Will Coach help make Junior stronger (mentally) by talking to him overnight at the hospital?

    Page 140 (iPad)

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    1. Maybe its just a way to vent his anger out at Junior...

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  21. Question:
    Why does Arnold still try to communicate with Rowdy even though he knows Rowdy hates him?
    pg. 115

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    Arnold and Roger seem to becoming better friends, and it shows when Roger gave Arnold some money to pay for the food.
    pg. 126

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    1. Because Arnold never stops regarding Rowdy as a friend. They were best friends for 14 years and Arnold wants to continue that relationship at any cost.

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  22. How are Roger and Arnold getting along so well? On page 129 he gives him a ride home and lends him 40 bucks. You think they wouldn't get along so well after that buffalo comment he made earlier in the book.

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    1. Since Arnold punched Roger, he has started to gain respect for Arnold and treating him as an equal. I think Arnold notices that and it slowly forgiving Roger and trying to act friendly.

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    2. There's a great line where Junior calls Roger something like "Friendly, sort-of racist Roger" - I have to confess I don't have the book with me, so I can't look it up right now!

      My sense is that Junior makes some allowances for Roger's ignorance. Also, given how few friends he has, it would be a strange choice to shun Roger's gestures of friendship.

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    3. It's on page 129 (thanks Joe, for citing the page in your post!)

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    4. Also if Arnold held a grunge against Roger then it wouldn't help the situation. Arnold is better then that so he moves past it, and Roger and Arnold become friends

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  23. Adrian V:

    Observation:
    I feel as though the racism is very double sided in the book so far. As much as the story is told in Arnold's perception and his ideas of racism, the book is filled with racist comments against whites. Not just from whites to Indians. It really shows how double sided racism can be, and how self-esteem really affects an individual's perception of others, not just himself.

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    1. Which anti-white comments are you talking about? (page numbers!)

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  24. I think rowdy truly misses Arnold JR.
    and my prediction for the future would probably be on Penelope and Arnold JR.
    When will this lieing from Arnold Jr stop

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  25. Connection: “Traveling between Reardan and Wellpinit, between the little white town and the reservation, I always felt like a stranger. I was half Indian in one place and half white in the other. It was like being Indian was my job, but it was only a part-time job. And it didn't pay well at all.”

    This quote connects with the title of the book ("Absolutely True Diary of a Part-Time Indian").

    Junior feels that being Indian was one of his jobs but describes it as "part-time". He also states that his job as an Indian "didn't pay well at all" probably because there was no benefits to being Indian (poor and was bullied). This must mean that his "Reardan" job was more meaningful to him, more beneficial to him(popular, better education), and most likely a more high paying job to him.

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  26. From Junior's sister's perspective, what makes the house that she is living in "the most gorgeous place in the world!"?

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  27. I think that Rowdy secretly misses Jr, and that later on in the book, they will start to be friends again.

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  28. Does Penelope start to change her ways after her and Junior start dating? pg.110-115 Does Junior see similarities in his friendship with Rowdy and his friendship with Gordy? How will those evolve in the rest of the book? pg.117

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  29. It's interesting how quick Junior is to lie to his new friends in order to impress them. "I pretended I belonged." -119 Seems like a fairly common practice in youth fiction, makes me wonder how often people struggle with it.

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    1. Interesting point, Dean. I remember in an earlier chapter how Junior lied about riding Eugene's motorcycle. I think this will become a theme throughout the book.

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  30. I think even though Rowdy doesn't admit it, I think he secretly misses Arnold/Junior and I think that Rowdy will eventually admit it. I also think Junior and Penelope will split up

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  31. In page 129, why does the narrator describe roger as "a little bit racist."

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  32. Prediction: I predict that Rowdy will slowly start to realize how much he misses jr. however once he does come to that realization, it may be to late for him to win back jr.'s friendship.

    Question: Why are Roger and Jr. seeming to to get along well? Is there something they see in eachother??

    Commemt: with the way things seem to be.going, i'm curious as to if racism will become a larger theme in the book

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  33. My prediction is, while we continue through the book not only will there be more racism but also more judging of people. I think this because of the activity we did on the first day in class.

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    1. Which activity are you referring to?

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    2. The activity about "have you ever been judged as a teenager?"

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  34. What caused Penelope's father, Earl, to become racist? Was it an unforgettably bad experience?

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    1. I would think its just the way he was raised and that he is ignorant.

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    2. maybe he is alone and doesn't have people he can relate to so he doesn't want other people to be happy because they never mention him having a wife

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    3. I've also been wondering whether there's a general consensus the people of Reardan have of Native Americans or is this apparent racism more isolated?

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  35. I have a connection when Junior trys out for the basketball team and they make them play one on one, thats what my coach made me do the first day of practice. pg 138

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  36. Page 103 the way rowdy is now is strange to me he hates junior but is still close r then I am with some of my old friends

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  37. I wonder if Penelope will treat Junior differently now that she knows he is poor. (129)

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    1. By the way she replied to him about he being poor it seems like she cares.

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    2. I wonder if even though he's poor if she will treat him differently because he's on the basketball team.

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  38. how will he be treated know that the people know junior is poor

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    1. I think that they will be more sympathetic towards him.

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  39. Junior gained Roger's respect by punching him in the face but Roger seems to act friendly towards Junior in recent chapters. Is this all a result of getting punched in the face or has Junior changed Roger's view of Indians?

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    1. I think that Roger respected him because of the punch but, then actually got to know him and became friends.

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  40. Reindeer Games- When Junior goes to the basketball fame he still walks in proud and happy to play. He's on the basketball team to play basketball not fight over him going to a different school. It's also cool to see how Juniors teammates and coach backs him up when they see people making fun of Junior. When Junior laughed they all laughed. His team and his coach was brave enough to stand up to all the crap the school gave them. I find a connection because on a soccer team I was on if you messed with one player you got the whole team and the coach on you because it's just something you don't do. (pg.144)
    And a partridge in a pear tree: Junior always talks about what his dad does like he spends money when he shouldn't be spending it and getting drunk. I wonder where is his mom during all of this why doesn't she tell her husband do change himself? She doesn't stand up and really have an opinion does she even care? (pg.151)

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  41. Red versus white: When his Grandma dies I find it weird how he told it but it's a book so it's not going to be like a long dramatic pause he's just going to come out and say it and that's what he did. (pg.157)
    Wake: At the end I thought it was cool all the Indians still came to Juniors Grandmother funeral. They did make fun of him a couple days ago did they forget that? Yet they still come together to celebrate a life. (pg.166)

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  42. I feel like Rowdy will become friends with Jr. again because if he truly hated him why would he bother emailing Jr. back at all?
    -115 and another page I dont know right now

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  43. why does the author make the grandma die so abruptly. pg 157.

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    1. This book is "Inspired by his [Sherman Alexie] own experiences growing up..." (Back cover of book) So this was probably what happened to his own grandmother.

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  44. If the grandmother was so important to his rez and to his family and him then why do we never hear much about her untill this chapter and 1 other time before?

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  45. (Page 175) How did everyone at Reardan Highschool find out about Junior's tough situation?

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  46. Melanie took the words out of my mouth! The role of the grandmother is kind of hidden within the book but it abruptly comes to light previously in the last chapter (page numbers to be determined) and during "Reindeer Games" when she passes away

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  47. how will the basketball team affect junior? And how will this in turn affect his relation ship with rowley?

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  48. I predict that Junior and rowdy will be friends again.

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